Published by Aparna on 09 Jul 2007 at 10:54 pm
Naan Vegetarian
Read the following lines from the song ‘Balleilakka’:
ammiyil arachu aakkivacha naattu kozhi patta kelappum
aadu maadu mela ULLa Paasam
veettu ration card-il serkka solli kaetkum
What’s the need to have such contradicting lines? How can the same person who kills and eats chicken (For God’s sake, it’s a baby!), love goats and cows when in all probability he might be eating those as well?!
Though I was born vegetarian, however, in the past few years, vegetarianism is something that I strongly support and I can now say am a vegetarian by my own choice. The very thought of killing a living animal pains my heart. Eating it later is something even worse than that! I can’t stand the very thought of it!
Every time I pass by a meat shop, I close my eyes hard!
I don’t eat in a place that serves both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food unless I have no other option at all and I am satisfied that both don’t get mixed up there. I guess I will be the only one who has not eaten pizza in any of the popular pizza chains for the only reason that they serve both veg & non-veg! The most difficult part comes when I travel to some place. I almost survived on biscuits and ice creams when I went to Ooty during my college tour. I don’t know what I will do if I travel abroad though I have no plans of going anywhere away from India. I have now given up eating cakes (I love cakes!
But then, who doesn’t?
) having eggs too. Hmmm. Enough for now.
I wish a time comes soon when many adopt vegetarianism. Of course, not all dreams come true. Sigh!
P.S.: Thanks to Prabhu for suggesting a nice title for this post ![]()
Sathej on 09 Jul 2007 at 11:08 pm #
Hello Aparna,
Absolutely agree. By the way, I too have not eaten a pizza at all!! And I don’t eat cakes. I avoid ice creams too as I got to know they use some animal products. Yes, though I am quite nervous even about pets, I abhor the idea of killing an animal.
Sathej
Adiya on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:01 am #
first unga titlea parthu.. i thought ur going to give a gyan or patti mandram about Naan is Vegetarian or Roti is Vegetarian or Chappati is Vegetarian.
appuram dhaan theriunchu .. neeinga patta parthu tension aiytinga ingu..
first kavithaikku poi azghu innu thalavari solli erukaru.. adhuvey ..
andhi mazai polighiratu one one drop ur face is comming song how come it apts first for blind person. .that means he dreams like that.. adhu maathiri
kavithai pattu inna anubhavikkam arayakudhathu..
Kudos to Veggie Gang.. cool.. keep proceeding.. u wont find anything strange in abroad.. u can get good veggie stuff.. or u need to know to how to customize ur order depends on the cushine. mexicon, italain etc etc differs by nomenclauture that it..
daneel olivaw on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:03 am #
a veg by choice, but still won’t eat in a place serving both veg/non-veg fare? hmm. interesting.
sangs on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:06 am #
A pure vegetarian(vegans ) should stop consuming even dairy products ..no milk ,no thayir
This reminds me of some graffiti I read somewhere “I’m a vegetarian ‘cos I hate plants ”
To each his own 
daneel olivaw on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:08 am #
apropos of nothing, i had a thought.
do you support the idea that tigers ought to inhabit the earth as well? let’s assume you do. let’s also assume the plight of tigers right now is a real one.
what do you think is going to help-a blanket ban on hunting, or letting someone be in charge of a game forest with full liberty to do as one wishes with the tiger population in that area, including hunting/arranging hunting parties, dealing in tiger skin, and all that?
google around a bit!
Neethi on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:09 am #
Aparna, I tend to disagree with you. I am a vegetarian too-by choice. But not eating in a place which serves vegetarian and non vegetarian food will leave me hungry at the place where I live. It is a challenge in itself to get something made without meat and adding the clause of strict vegetarianism will not help my cause of getting some food to eat. Avoiding cakes, ice creams is all fine but somehow once in a while, we have to let go of these rules and regulations. You say cakes and ice creams use animal products. What is milk but an animal product…butter-animal product, cheese, margerine, I can go on…Even though my family is a strict vegetarian family, my mother had advised me that when in Rome do as the Romans do (read:if you don’t find anything to eat, eat meat). I have stuck to my rules, but going against all people who eat meat is stretching it a little too far I think.
Sathej on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:17 am #
Not against ‘people’ eating meat, but rather against ‘eating’ meat, maybe. Yes,strict vegetarinas would avaid any dairy product do! But, I am not quite a believer in “When in Rome, do what the Romans do” anyway. Yes, it is a challenge outside India for such people to survive without doubt!
By the way, this post has generated quite a lot of opinion, Aparna! A sensitive topic.
Sathej
Sathej on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:18 am #
Sorry a few typos in the previous comment. It should have been ‘vegetarians’ and ‘avoid’
Sathej
Sivakumar Jayaraman on 10 Jul 2007 at 12:33 am #
A good post and quite debatable too. While many westerners are turning to vegetarianism, i dont think the concept (should i say concept?????) is catching up atleast in India.. I am a born vegetarian but not one by choice now.. as you said it is indeed horrible especially while traveling.. I had been to Indonesia and was put up in a hotel for one and half months before moving to a house.. believe me i used to eat tomato rice (which we thought the cook)..for one and a half months tomato rice every day.. i started hating tomatoes after that.. but then i had to get to eat non veg which also became a habit…now to the killing of chicken etc people can draw comparison of killing plants too for vegetables..!!!! so i tend to agree and disagree with you….
ranjhith on 10 Jul 2007 at 4:25 am #
You speak of cruelty to animals/birds/fish/non-humans & not just abt eating habits alone.
Choose any one below becos of the choice you made & take an oath:
Neenga Vegiee by choicea? Maatuneenga.
* Will not consume Diary products.
* Will not purchase/use leather products.
* No to pesticides as it kills insects/rodents/birds for the sake of food.
* Will stay away from cosmetics that use animal fat.
* Dislike Lord Shiva as he always poses sitting on a Ox.
* Dislike Lord Ganesha - makes parody of a mighty elephant.
* Dislike Lord Muruga - done cruelty to Peacocks.
* No to horse riding/elephant safaris.
* Pay no visits to Zoos/Circuses.
* A straight no to pets including fish in tanks.
(my head is smoking out of over working)
Aparna on 10 Jul 2007 at 7:53 am #
Sathej,
The green/red dot in all the products comes in handy for all the vegetarians. If you take any of the brands like Amul, Walls, Arun ice creams all those are 100% vegetarian and they have a green dot too.
Adiya,

As you say to each his own 

LOL
anubavikkaraa madhiri andha linesla oNNum illa.
Hmmm let’s think about all that if and when I go abroad
Daneel,
The reason behind not eating in a place serving both veg & non-veg is that the very thought that there is an animal in a plate somewhere near me pains my heart
Sangs,
I am not that pure a vegetarian
Daneel,
Maybe the second choice might work. Will think about it for sometime and revisit the answer
Aravind on 10 Jul 2007 at 7:57 am #
Veg debate nadakardhu but ppl forgot commenting on the lyrics thing..
Sathej on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:02 am #
Hello Aaparna,
Thanks for the ice cream clarification And the photo that you put up long back-you could put it up here too. Very touching!
Sathej
Sathej on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:03 am #
Sorry for the typo in the name, Aparna
Aparna on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:04 am #
Neethi,
And secondly, I absolutely have nothing against anyone who eats meat! As Sathej has rightly pointed out, it is only eating meat I am against.

First of all, I am not asking anyone to agree with me
Haven’t I written that even I eat in a place that serves both veg & non-veg, though that happens rarely? The reason behind that is sometimes for the sake of hunger we have to let go of our rules.
There are always bread and jam that comes in handy when you don’t find any vegetarian food. So acting as Romans do when in Rome is something I won’t adopt in this case.
This talk of dairy products being animal products and strict vegetarians should not consume it is something that I don’t agree with simple because no animal is being killed to produce it. But then, each one is entitled to have a different opinion
All the best to you for finding lotsa yummy vegetarian food
Sathej on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:06 am #
By the way, I have heard of the purest of the pure vegetarians who don’t consume dairy products and eat only fruits/vegetables which drop of their own accord from trees!
Sathej
Aparna on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:14 am #
Sivakumar,
Btw, I agree and disagree with you as well 
The third one is more out of fear than anything 
Btw, Adiya has already commented on the lyrics.
Yeah it’s going to take a looong time for the concept of vegetarianism to catch up in India. The scenario here is more and more people are turning towards non-vegetarianism
Ranjhith,
> Will not purchase/use leather products.
> Will stay away from cosmetics that use animal fat.
> No to horse riding/elephant safaris.
> A straight no to pets including fish in tanks.
I already follow all these
Aravind,
Why don’t you comment on the lyrics?
Sathej,
Yeah that’s a very touching photo. I didn’t want to put any photo here.
Aparna on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:23 am #
Ranjhith,
Anyway, I don’t follow that. But, I know quite a few who don’t wear silk.
Let me add one more point to your list. Won’t wear silk sarees or other costumes made out of silk since silk worm is killed in order to produce silk
Sathej,
Just kidding 
Yes I have heard that too. Btw, are you planning to create any record of being the person who has commented maximum number of times for a post?
Sathej on 10 Jul 2007 at 8:40 am #
No, Aparna, I didn’t think of that. But yes, I have already commented 7 times here. It is already a maximum for me, I think. Just that I found this quite an interesting post. Hope you don’t mind the comments column becoming this long, for which I am partly responsible!
Sathej
daneel olivaw on 10 Jul 2007 at 11:08 am #
some more thought experiments.
1. are you sure you are not against “people” eating meat? isn’t it difficult not to associate the eater with the killing of the chicken? after all, the thought of a chicken being eaten in the next table troubles you.
2. are you sure saying no to silk sarees is the way to save silk worms? today, their natural habitat is almost destroyed. if there was no incentive, in the form of silk sarees, to grow them, wouldn’t they have become extinct by now?
3. extend the above example to all animal products, and to patronizing zoos/safaris.
4. dairy products do not kill any animal. true, but isn’t it bad to deprive a calf from its fair share of milk?
5. you are a vegetarian by tradition. means you haven’t been exposed to non-veg at all. are you sure you really are a vegetarian by choice?
politically, i am a libertarian. so my congratulations on sticking to a difficult choice and not compromising. it’s so easy to give up.
daneel olivaw on 10 Jul 2007 at 11:09 am #
@ sathej,
you rock dude. keep them coming.
Soundar Arunachalam on 10 Jul 2007 at 3:48 pm #
I am not in support to the Non-Vegetarians.but see the reality
We people cannot avoid the killing of Animals simply because we use animal products every where and every now and then,Examples Listed below
Brushes Animal hair ,Gelatin/Gelatine,Glycerin/Glycerine,Honey,Leather, Mohair,Musk,Photography uses Gelatine,Silk,Soap,Beeswax,Sugar,Cosmetics and Capsules
the exhaustive list continues.
Do u think we can avoid all these stuffs metioned above????????
Bharath V on 10 Jul 2007 at 9:45 pm #
As a born vegetarian (not a vegan BTW), I have learnt to co-exist with my non-vegetarian friends, while staying vegetarian. There was a time when I survived on boiled potatoes and fruits for three weeks while on a business trip to an eastern European nation

BTW are you allowed to “dissect” Tamil film song lyrics?
Aparna on 10 Jul 2007 at 9:46 pm #
Daneel,
2. I never said anything about silkworms. I said I know quite a few people who say that. I got reminded of that after reading Ranjhith’s comment.
Finally, thanks 
1. I am sure about that. As I have said earlier, if I say I have anything against th people who eat meat, then, the number of people whom I am against will be more in this world
4. Yes it is.
5. Yeah I was not exposed to non-veg early in life. But, haven’t I come across quite a lot of people who eat meat? And if I wanted to I could always have tasted meat when some of them asked me to which I didn’t! So, I think I can say that
Adithya on 10 Jul 2007 at 9:47 pm #
for god’s sake, it’s just a song !
and there are much more positive aspects abt the song.. say it symbolises peace and harmony.(ayyanaridam kathivaangithaan pencil seevalame)…
Aparna on 10 Jul 2007 at 10:01 pm #
Soundar,
Yes we can’t avoid….
Bharath,
When did i say it’s not a song?
Yeah, the song has good lyrics.
That must have been difficult!
Who should allow me to dissect the lyrics?
Adithya,
Welcome to my blog
sami on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:39 am #
I agree with you totally.
But i wont agree with the comments saying that milk and its product are non vegetarian. see non-veg is some thing that is fleshy taken ‘out’ from blood. On the other hand, cow itself turns its blood to milk and gives us that. certainly it is not non-veg.
But i do agree with the quote “Be a roman, when you are in rome” (But again you do u go rome then :P) Well we can eat in mixed hotels rather than surviving with biscuits. Finally all health matters when it comes to food. All things are our take
Aparna on 11 Jul 2007 at 5:28 pm #
Sami,
I guess milk being vegetarian or not is an ongoing debate everywhere.
Welcome to my blog
Agreed health matters. That’s why I do compromise sometimes if the place seems ok. But, surviving on biscuits for 2-3 days is not at all difficult, that too, when you like biscuits and there are lot of varieties for you to choose from
ranjhith on 11 Jul 2007 at 10:15 pm #
I missed Honey!
Aparna on 13 Jul 2007 at 8:20 am #
Ranjhith,
You missed out anything else?
Now here are some clarifications for everyone:
1. When you say you are depriving the calf of its share of milk, remember you are supposed to milk the cow only after the calf has had it’s milk. Only if that’s not happening, it is a cause for concern. Never can a calf drink all the milk of a cow. In fact, it seems a calf of a buffalo dies when it drinks all the milk. So, since we are only consuming the excess milk of a cow, I don’t think it’s wrong.
2. When you say we are killing the plants for vegetables/fruits, tell me what will happen to the vegetables/fruits if we don’t take them from the trees or plants? It is not the case with animals. Think of what will happen to a chicken if you don’t kill and eat it!
contemplator on 20 Jul 2007 at 12:35 am #
Akka,
Firstly. This is my first time at your blog, not in terms of visiting, but in terms of commenting. I must commend you on the high quality of posts!
Yeah. There have been strains of disagreement in the previous comments, I can see. So this is going to continue!
Why is it that vegetarians seem to portray such a hollow sense of understanding when it comes to their opinions about non-vegetarians. Killing of animals for consumption was the first thing man ever learned to use his brain for. It is in the way our body is created.
But far from all this logic, I mainly want to say that it is sometimes not very helpful to be highly opinionated about something. It leads to stereotyping and spontaneous judgments. It is a three dimensional world after all.
contemplator on 20 Jul 2007 at 12:36 am #
Akka,
Firstly. This is my first time at your blog, not in terms of visiting, but in terms of commenting. I must commend you on the high quality of posts!
Yeah. There have been strains of disagreement in the previous comments, I can see. So this is going to continue!
Why is it that vegetarians seem to portray such a hollow sense of understanding when it comes to their opinions about non-vegetarians. Killing of animals for consumption was the first thing man ever learned to use his brain for. It is in the way our body is created.
But far from the logic, I mainly want to say that it is sometimes not very helpful to be highly opinionated about something. It leads to stereotyping and spontaneous judgments. It is a three dimensional world after all.
Aparna on 20 Jul 2007 at 5:33 pm #
Contemplator,


Belated welcome to my blog.
I have said all I wanted to say about killing and eating of animals. Let me say anything more now
> it is sometimes not very helpful to be highly opinionated about something
Agreed. But, human nature is such that neither can you stop yourself from forming strong opinions nor will you be able to let go of your opinion so easily. It’s not so easy to change either yourself or the opinions formed
Thank you and do keep visiting my blog
Bharath on 20 Jul 2007 at 8:37 pm #
Konna Paavam , Thinna Poochu…!!!
C*H*i*l*l on 22 Jul 2007 at 1:51 am #
Aparna, did you know Sugar might be NON-VEG too? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_char
Innum ungalukku enmela kovam theernthathaa ney theriyala… Thirumbavum veruppethreno? Cha Cha, Aparna Madam romba nallavanga vallavanga, thappa ellaam eduthukka maattaanga!!
Aparna on 22 Jul 2007 at 11:40 am #
Bharath,
Welcome to my blog
Chillpilgrim,
Thanks for the info.
Welcome back!
ranjhith on 23 Jul 2007 at 11:37 pm #
I’m just thinking… If you get lost, say for a month or so. Like in a “cast away” like situation.
How’ll you survive? You cant retort saying can eat “grass”.
It might be “wild”. You can’t even try roots/fruits. Because you can’t trust them.
What’ll you do?
Aparna on 24 Jul 2007 at 1:24 pm #
Ranjhith,
I don’t know. Let’s think about what I will do when something like that happens
Gayathri on 04 Aug 2007 at 5:53 pm #
Hi Aparna
This topic seems to have generated a lot of response!!!!!…I have at last commented in your blog
Aparna on 04 Aug 2007 at 8:50 pm #
Gayathri,
Finally found the time in your busy schedule to read my blog? 
Welcome to my blog!!
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